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  <title type="text">loading video clips in a Safari web page</title>
  <updated>2010-07-19T20:35:27+01:00</updated>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-03T13:32:26+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Thomas Maude</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Has anyone else noticed the time it takes for Safari to load a page that contains embedded video clips in the page. <xhtml:br/>
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For example any BBC sports page tennis or the world cup ... these pages will have at least one or maybe two or three vid clips embedded in the text ...and it's the time these clips take to load up so the page is navigable that I've noticed recently.<xhtml:br/>
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In simple terms you can see the white wirly wheel trying to load them up and in the past this was instantaneous. <xhtml:br/>
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my broadband connection is a good one and I'm running 10.6.4 and the latest version of safari <xhtml:br/>
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I've noticed it for about the last few weeks just wondered if anyone had noticed and wondered about it to <xhtml:br/>
Tom </xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-03T16:36:33+01:00</updated>
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    <author>
      <name>Mick Burrell</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">It's quite quick here (I used the live tennis feed). When you say your broadband connection is a good one, what download speeds are you currently getting? (Mine has just shown 3500 but is usually 5500+)</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-03T20:03:11+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Thomas Maude</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Hi Mick I don't mean the live feed just the reports that have two or three mins of video embedded between the text that show short highlights </xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-04T00:06:36+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Mick Burrell</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Point me at one</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-04T13:59:58+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Thomas Maude</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">try these Mick <xhtml:br/>
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/wimbledon/8786163.stm<xhtml:br/>
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/default.stm<xhtml:br/>
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/8780868.stm<xhtml:br/>
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8784798.stm</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-05T00:21:17+01:00</updated>
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    <author>
      <name>Mick Burrell</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">I didn't use a stop watch but between 4 &amp; 5 seconds from pressing Return (after pasting in the URL) and the sound and video starting. So not "instantaneous". Is that the same for you?</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-05T10:10:43+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Thomas Maude</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">yes thats what I found to Mick </xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-06T10:42:40+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Euan Williams</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">My experience varied this morning, with football site (no videos auto-opening) instantaneous, and cycling (large size video auto opening) rather slower.<xhtml:br/>
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My guesses: Football interest has crashed (Roonie - what went wrong!) but the cyclists are hard at it still (masochists, as Mick would say).<xhtml:br/>
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Server loadings and auto-opening (or not) of videos seem like candidates for blame.<xhtml:br/>
Euan.</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-06T12:21:25+01:00</updated>
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    <author>
      <name>Mick Burrell</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">They are Flash based so I don't think that time should be unexpected. There's a chap with a computer company based in California which also makes phones. He won't allow flash to be used on the phones for that very reason ;-)</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-11T17:36:18+01:00</updated>
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    <author>
      <name>Thomas Maude</name>
      <email>info@augwessex.org.uk</email>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Found a good example here that has three small vids embedded in one page ...as well as it taking a long time to load it is also difficult to scroll down the page till it has fully loaded <xhtml:br/>
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10585521.stm</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-11T21:48:30+01:00</updated>
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    <author>
      <name>Trevor Hewson</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">I had no problem scrolling while the video was loading (using Safari 5.0). I think, as Euan said, that it is largely down to whether you strike lucky in connecting to the server without encountering too much traffic.</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-12T11:33:34+01:00</updated>
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      <name>Euan Williams</name>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Re BBC site: top of page loaded in roughly 3 secs (11.20am Monday), scrolled down to third video which loaded in about 6 secs from original press of the URL. This is not significant as there are so many variables in play.<xhtml:br/>
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(MacBook Intel 5,2 with early nVidia graphics card, 4mb Ram, Safari 5, MacOs 10.6.4 and good TalkTalk connection here, as I live about 300m of cable from the Exchange, and get around 16mb/sec) on TTs excellent and glitsch-free 20mb standard line offer -- thanks Mark!)<xhtml:br/>
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Apart from net traffic (time of day and public interest), location (nearby Exchange is good), remember that browsers have to assemble the downloaded info to display it. This means that all the normal issues about free ram and disc space (15% is good) poor digital housekeeping, cleaning caches, fonts playing up and so forth may play a part in your experience. <xhtml:br/>
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If this issue worries you, try doing a safe boot (hold down shift at the chime (and wait...) until the progress bar starts to creep across. Safari won't connect after this, but restart after you have logged in and things (may) have improved.<xhtml:br/>
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Onyx will run in Safe Boot mode, and you may choose to check out bad preferences, and cleaning out more caches, etc. with it. Just remember to use the correct Onyx for your OS:<xhtml:br/>
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&gt;  http://www.titanium.free.fr/download.php?sid=be01eca9eb03b65fefaafa298c210abb  &lt;.</xhtml:div>
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    <title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: loading video clips in a Safari web page]]></title>
    <updated>2010-07-19T20:35:27+01:00</updated>
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    <author>
      <name>Thomas Maude</name>
      <email>info@augwessex.org.uk</email>
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      <xhtml:div xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Thanks for all your reply's and suggestions. I cured it by updating my adobe shockwave flash player today which has cured the problem. </xhtml:div>
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